After a 1.5-month epic journey1, I am finally settling into my new position at Hendrix College. Here’s a fun problem I just heard from my new colleage Mark Goadrich:
A birthday cake has
lit candles. At each step you pick a number
uniformly at random and blow out
candles. If any candles remain lit, the process repeats (using a new value of
). As a function of
, what is the expected number of rounds needed to blow out all the candles?

For example, suppose the cake starts out with 14 lit candles. You roll a fair 14-sided die2 to choose a number between 1 and 14. Suppose you roll a 6. You then blow out 6 candles, leaving 8 lit candles. You now roll a fair 8-sided die; suppose you roll a 3. You blow out 3 candles, leaving 5. So you roll a fair 5-sided die. Maybe this time you actually roll a 5, so you blow out all the remaining candles and you are done. In this particular case, the whole process took three rounds; the question is to determine how many rounds it will take on average.
If one starts with lit candles, it seems clear that the average number of rounds will be less than
(it would be very unlucky to roll a 1 every single time) but greater than
(it is pretty lucky to roll an
on the first try, although not nearly as much so as rolling all 1’s).
Have fun thinking about it. There is, in fact, a nice analytical solution, which I will explain in a future post!
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You can make a fair
-sided die for any
out of a bipyramid with an
-gonal base.↩
Neat, it’s the nth harmonic number. If this comment form had a “preview” button, I would be tempted to sketch out a proof; I don’t trust my LaTeX skills to get it right on the first try. Anyway you promised to follow up with an explanation. 🙂
This is an interesting problem. Thinking recursively and collecting terms leads me to guess a sum of harmonic numbers, e.g., take something like ‘digamma(n+1) + gamma’ for n candles. So, for example, my guess for 4 candles would be digamma(5) + gamma = 25/12.
That’s so funny, I had imagined this exact same problem (with a different scenario – not birthday candles) just a couple weeks ago. I figured that it could be calculated by summing the first n harmonic numbers. Looking forward to your explanation!
I loved this problem! It has so many layers (like a cake???) — you do one kind of thing just to get to the conjecture, then another entirely different thing to prove it. I wrote up my solution at http://reallyeli.com/the-birthday-candle-problem-terse.html.
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